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History or fiction

OK, I realise there are many stories told about the Sheriff of Nottingham, but this page is starting to look like Sherrif of Nottingham in fiction with so many paragraphs about Robin Hood and even Disney cartoons.

I'll try to lookup some more research, but just from the vaguest of memories and a few links:

First sheriffs (1450) : William Sadler and Thomas Lyng [1]
Current sheriff (2000): Councillor Derek Cresswell, Labour Party [2]
There's a list of all the sheriffs on that page too
There are two maces in Nottingham, from the time when there were two parish churches (I think this might have been a catholic/protestant thing)
The whole "sheriff of nottingham was responsible for law-enforcement in the whole of northern england, all the way up to Yorkshire where robin hood lived" stories - perhaps someone can who's seen Tony Robinson's programme more recently than I can remember the details?
The "date" of the various robin-hood stories has probably been debunked already, but it's worth checking that the Sheriff of Nottingham wasn't contemporary with either the Crusades, or the Lionheart for example
Presumably some of the less savoury aspects of "the sheriff" might turn out to be opinion, we should be careful not to use retellings of a legend as a primary source here

Ojw 23:38, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I see what you mean about most of the page being legend and fiction, but I think there's a reason why this page exists and, for instance, Sheriff of Oxford doesn't... Daibhid C 15:52, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't mind me, just being pedantic now, but:

"Sherwood Forest, near Nottingham" - didn't Sherwood Forest cover most of the midlands at the time?
"thought to be under the control of King John" - is this non-obvious? A policeman being under the control of the king?
~~Villain category - isn't this reserved for fictional characters? (although I'm sure Mr Cresswell has developed a sense of humour about it!)~~ - ok, the sheriff herself noted that "that the Sheriff of Nottingham had been voted one of the most evil villains of all time" [3]

Ojw 00:21, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

What about William de Briwere (or Brewer or Bruere)? I understood he was Sheriff of a number of shires including Nottinghamshire during the time that Richard was on Crusade.

-06 Oct 2005

The Sheriff was the king's respresentative in a county, therefore could be under the direct control of the king.

For years...

For years the post has been directly appointed by the Lord Mayor ... How many years? Five? Fifty? Five hundred? ::Supergolden:: 13:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Possible split

Why don't we do a seperate article on the Sheriff of Nottingham in Fiction? Then we could just keep a note in this article saying "The Sheriff of Nottingham was an arch-villain in the Robin Hood stories."

For the same reason Nottingham still has the entirely-ceremonial post at all: it adds to the charm of the thing. Simesa 03:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name of the fictional Sheriff

In the BBC "Robinhood" series, did Robin call the Sheriff by name near the end of the episode "Peace? Off!!"? I could swear he said "Vasily, with me" when they were fighting the assassins. 207.202.227.125 01:41, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Please feel free to join the Wikipedia:WikiProject Nottinghamshire and contribute whatever information you can. KlickingKarl (talk) 02:04, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Current Sherrif

I found the name of the current Sheriff at [4] -- which may be a transient page.

Incorrect details for current Sheriff (as of July 2012)

The page incorrectly listed Leon Unczur as the current sheriff which is incorrect - not helped by the fact that Nottingham City Council have not updated their page about the sheriff on their website. The current sheriff is Councillor Merlita Bryan as stated at http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3686 Flibblesan (talk) 20:57, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]